第二 Q&A

[Shia]

どうぞ　～　遠慮しないで下さい。

[Hi-Deki]

not like that but that is common cause of the similarities.
failed = can't do it
how about like this i think you can't type every single kanji one by one.
there must be a kanji that you can't type as a single kanji.
cause the language bar is more accurate on the conversion of words.
and not every kanji has a word that represents it.

[Shia]

I dont quite understand what you're trying to say. Examples would be helpful.
Although I find myself disagreeing with the statement "not every kanji has a word that represents it". Again, examples would be helpful. Personally, I think its more correct to say that "not every word is represented by a kanji" (the other way round).

[Max]

every kanji has a word which "represents" it, that's what kun yomi generally is.

[Hi-Deki]

but not every kanji has a kun yomi or does it.

[Max]

as i said. "that's what kun yomi GENERALLY is."

[Samuel]

Ok. The counter for month is がつ, & I can use にち for a date indicator. So could I say today's date/time as:

九がつ五にちごご九じ十五ふんに ??

I've got a sinking suspicious that if I want to express this as a date/time more of it should be Kanji?? Or am I getting ahead of my beginer self?

[Shia]

Hey Samuel, welcome to the forum!

September 5th, 9:15pm = totally in kanji is = 九月五日午後九時十五分. But I think its more common to write it as 9月5日午後9 時15分. The 読み方 (way to read it) is くがついつかごごくじじゅうごふん. The way you read dates from 1st ~ 10th is not にち. So, the 1st (ついたち; 一日), 2nd (ふつか; 二日), 3rd (みっか; 三日) ...etc. But the kanji is always the same 日.

Hope that makes sense.

[Samuel]

Thanks Shia, this is perfect. I wanted to see what the correct way to date & time my papers would look like. Should I date my homework for Japanese class that I did today as:

9月6日午後4 時15分. Will that be correct? Thank you again. These new Kanji will be good for me to learn.

[Shia]

Looking over some formal Japanese documents I have, today's date would be written as 21年9月7日. Looking over some informal Japanese letters, today's date would simply be written as 九月七日 (7th: なのか) in Kanji. Im not too sure what the "correct" way to write the date nor have I ever seen the way the time is noted on college papers so i cant say for certain, sorry. Best to ask your teacher (the one marking the paper) to be absolutely sure.

Though, much like English, dates & time can be written in various ways. Its a matter of preferences really.

[Samuel]

Well you've given me a fantastic start. I'll ask my Sensei for her advise tomorrow. Thanks again! I'll be back soon with another silly question I'm sure.

[Shia]

I've noticed something today on one of my pocket notebooks. The space given to write the date & time is shown as: ____ 年____ 月____ 日_______ 時頃.
The last two kanji reads as じごろ which means approximate time. I thought that was quite interesting since ive never since it before.

[Shia]

English Q: Is the expression "reading" or "telling" time, or both is okay? E.g. "how do you read/tell time?".

Japanese Q: If literally translated to Japanese, it would be 時間の読み方 or 時間の教え方...? BUT is it more natural to say 時間の言い方? (lit: way to "say" time). Just wondering.